Comments on: Letter to the Editor: Maloof shows leadership in trail effort http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/ Thu, 19 Nov 2009 03:33:01 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.4 hourly 1 By: PeoriaIllinoisan http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-60303 PeoriaIllinoisan Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:15:04 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-60303 I agree with you 100% on your last point, Emtronics. I agree on the other too, but people seem to gloss over the fact that no-one will walk or ride through the lower end of the trail/rail. I won't either. Frankly, if the trail is to be successful it needs to run along the riverfront until it hits War Dr. I agree with you 100% on your last point, Emtronics. I agree on the other too, but people seem to gloss over the fact that no-one will walk or ride through the lower end of the trail/rail. I won’t either. Frankly, if the trail is to be successful it needs to run along the riverfront until it hits War Dr.

]]> By: Emtronics http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-60300 Emtronics Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:09:17 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-60300 Another note: The trail people really don't give a rats butt about the trail south of Peoria Heights. They care about the part that runs from the Heights to the North. You won't see these people strolling along down around Rock Island St and crossing Jefferson. Another note: The trail people really don’t give a rats butt about the trail south of Peoria Heights. They care about the part that runs from the Heights to the North. You won’t see these people strolling along down around Rock Island St and crossing Jefferson.

]]> By: Emtronics http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-60299 Emtronics Thu, 14 Feb 2008 00:07:26 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-60299 Good call mortonmalise. Who is also going to pay for the upkeep of this trail? The taxpayer that is who. The trail people never seem to touch on who is going to have to maintain it. Good call mortonmalise. Who is also going to pay for the upkeep of this trail? The taxpayer that is who. The trail people never seem to touch on who is going to have to maintain it.

]]> By: Subway Conductor http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-60130 Subway Conductor Wed, 13 Feb 2008 03:05:03 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-60130 You are right, this isn't a subway to nowhere. I am kidding with my idea. My only comment on the entire issue is that I wish people cared this much about other issues that are desperately in need of attention now. This, to me, isn't to priority though it is on the blogs You are right, this isn’t a subway to nowhere. I am kidding with my idea. My only comment on the entire issue is that I wish people cared this much about other issues that are desperately in need of attention now. This, to me, isn’t to priority though it is on the blogs

]]> By: mortonmalaise http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-60039 mortonmalaise Tue, 12 Feb 2008 15:39:09 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-60039 Who's going to provide the extra police to keep the trail safe? Peoria seems to be spread pretty thin police-wise in the first place. Who’s going to provide the extra police to keep the trail safe? Peoria seems to be spread pretty thin police-wise in the first place.

]]> By: David P. Jordan http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-60028 David P. Jordan Tue, 12 Feb 2008 14:49:51 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-60028 Prego, There isn't going to be a business boom on the Kellar Branch two weeks after service was restored. Have patience. The lack of patience after the first decade of municipal ownership started this long conflict between trail proponents and rail supporters. Other municipally-owned rail lines have been quite successful (Dayton, OH, Columbia, MO, Peru, IL, Rochelle, IL, etc.), but it takes time to nurture the railroad's traffic base. Dayton purchased its track, then with no customers, in 1993; Columbia purchased Norfolk Southern's Columbia - Centralia branch in 1987 and set up the Columbia Terminal Railroad; Peru puchased an abandoned portion of the old La Salle & Bureau County RR in 1988 to help develop an industrial park. So successful it was that Peru sold this line to shortline Illinois Railway in 2004. Rochelle has been most successful; they had new track built into an industrial park in 1987 which two decades hence has brought several large warehouses, a lumber wholesaler, a truss manufacturer, a steel faricator and an ethanol plant (which is expanding), creating several hundred jobs. The difference with Peoria is that these communities nurtured their railroads, committed to them long-term and avoided mistakes early on such as per car surcharges. The Kellar Branch currently has two users - Carver Lumber and O'Brien Steel. Carri Scharf and Globe Energy are interested in using the line in the near future. Also, CIRY has access to Growth Cell Two, to which the City can attract rail-served industry with the advantage of neutral rail connections via the Kellar Branch and its connection to the Tazewell & Peoria RR. Prego,

There isn’t going to be a business boom on the Kellar Branch two weeks after service was restored. Have patience. The lack of patience after the first decade of municipal ownership started this long conflict between trail proponents and rail supporters. Other municipally-owned rail lines have been quite successful (Dayton, OH, Columbia, MO, Peru, IL, Rochelle, IL, etc.), but it takes time to nurture the railroad’s traffic base.

Dayton purchased its track, then with no customers, in 1993; Columbia purchased Norfolk Southern’s Columbia – Centralia branch in 1987 and set up the Columbia Terminal Railroad; Peru puchased an abandoned portion of the old La Salle & Bureau County RR in 1988 to help develop an industrial park. So successful it was that Peru sold this line to shortline Illinois Railway in 2004.

Rochelle has been most successful; they had new track built into an industrial park in 1987 which two decades hence has brought several large warehouses, a lumber wholesaler, a truss manufacturer, a steel faricator and an ethanol plant (which is expanding), creating several hundred jobs.

The difference with Peoria is that these communities nurtured their railroads, committed to them long-term and avoided mistakes early on such as per car surcharges.

The Kellar Branch currently has two users – Carver Lumber and O’Brien Steel. Carri Scharf and Globe Energy are interested in using the line in the near future. Also, CIRY has access to Growth Cell Two, to which the City can attract rail-served industry with the advantage of neutral rail connections via the Kellar Branch and its connection to the Tazewell & Peoria RR.

]]> By: septboy http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-60016 septboy Tue, 12 Feb 2008 13:41:50 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-60016 prego man- what makes you think that the trail wouldn't be just as desolate as you feel the Kellar Branch is now? I'll give you that there might be some initial traffic on the trail, but what happens when the newness wears off? prego man- what makes you think that the trail wouldn’t be just as desolate as you feel the Kellar Branch is now? I’ll give you that there might be some initial traffic on the trail, but what happens when the newness wears off?

]]> By: prego man http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-59910 prego man Tue, 12 Feb 2008 03:41:52 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-59910 Mr. Ed, you are an absolute, certified A-1 goof. If you could put down your Xbox 360 control long enough, you might be able to eyeball the Kellar Branch and see how desolate it is... has been... and will continue to be. I really wonder if you're over 15... because you certainly don't show enough smarts to tell me otherwise. Not only is your thought process all screwed up, but your writing style and lack of correct spelling makes me wonder if you're busy with your latest issue of Maxim while you're trying to type. Good luck in life, pal... cause you're gonna need it. Mr. Ed, you are an absolute, certified A-1 goof. If you could put down your Xbox 360 control long enough, you might be able to eyeball the Kellar Branch and see how desolate it is… has been… and will continue to be. I really wonder if you’re over 15… because you certainly don’t show enough smarts to tell me otherwise. Not only is your thought process all screwed up, but your writing style and lack of correct spelling makes me wonder if you’re busy with your latest issue of Maxim while you’re trying to type.

Good luck in life, pal… cause you’re gonna need it.

]]> By: vonster http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-59870 vonster Mon, 11 Feb 2008 23:57:28 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-59870 423 ton miles per gallon. 423 ton miles per gallon.

]]> By: Mister Ed http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-59705 Mister Ed Mon, 11 Feb 2008 04:03:47 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-59705 Hey Prego, What happened to your meathead mansion it seems to have disappeared? You should get it back and post all your anti-rail garbage posts there where no one will see them. If Mr. Brenkman is laughing at you than I join him in that good laugh. All those that predicted that the rails were rotten and would not support an engine have been proven wrong. Lies and stupidity by anti-rail folks will not prevail the Kellar Branch is here to stay - get use to it. Hey Prego, What happened to your meathead mansion it seems to have disappeared? You should get it back and post all your anti-rail garbage posts there where no one will see them. If Mr. Brenkman is laughing at you than I join him in that good laugh. All those that predicted that the rails were rotten and would not support an engine have been proven wrong. Lies and stupidity by anti-rail folks will not prevail the Kellar Branch is here to stay – get use to it.

]]> By: prego man http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-59696 prego man Mon, 11 Feb 2008 02:59:00 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-59696 Morton, I don't have to do any "research" to know that freight by rail is still very much in demand, and certainly necessary. However, that doesn't mean it WILL work everywhere. Over this 8 mile stretch, the freight need has come and gone. Does that mean it will never return? I don't know. Is there a guarantee that the Detroit Pistons won't relocate to Fort Wayne? Nothing is impossible, I guess... but, it sure is unlikely. There are better uses for this line than to watch the weeds grow while Brenkman laughs at us all. Tear up the tracks. It's a new century. Morton, I don’t have to do any “research” to know that freight by rail is still very much in demand, and certainly necessary. However, that doesn’t mean it WILL work everywhere. Over this 8 mile stretch, the freight need has come and gone. Does that mean it will never return? I don’t know. Is there a guarantee that the Detroit Pistons won’t relocate to Fort Wayne? Nothing is impossible, I guess… but, it sure is unlikely.

There are better uses for this line than to watch the weeds grow while Brenkman laughs at us all. Tear up the tracks. It’s a new century.

]]> By: PeoriaIllinoisan http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-59683 PeoriaIllinoisan Mon, 11 Feb 2008 01:29:37 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-59683 Well, this really matters and it's not a subway to nowhere. Well, this really matters and it’s not a subway to nowhere.

]]> By: Subway Conductor http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-59671 Subway Conductor Sun, 10 Feb 2008 23:37:07 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-59671 I just wish people would get as involved in things that really matter as much as they do about this line to nowhere I just wish people would get as involved in things that really matter as much as they do about this line to nowhere

]]> By: mortonmalaise http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-59624 mortonmalaise Sun, 10 Feb 2008 17:20:11 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-59624 Prego, Do some research. Find out how much of this country's freight still moves by rail. I think you might change your tune a bit. Prego,
Do some research. Find out how much of this country’s freight still moves by rail. I think you might change your tune a bit.

]]> By: prego man http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/comment-page-1/#comment-59515 prego man Sun, 10 Feb 2008 03:40:23 +0000 http://peoriaillinoisan.blogpeoria.com/2008/02/08/letter-to-the-editor-maloof-shows-leadership-in-trail-effort/#comment-59515 And, as the magic pencil moves, the "filled" boxcars do not. Welcome to the 21st Century, pals. This ain't your father's Peoria. The sooner you Toonerville Trolley dudes catch on, the better off we all will be. And, as the magic pencil moves, the “filled” boxcars do not.

Welcome to the 21st Century, pals. This ain’t your father’s Peoria. The sooner you Toonerville Trolley dudes catch on, the better off we all will be.

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